Negotiation negotiation
negotiation Negotiation Conti 2020 20201230 2020-12-30
Actor
Conti
Record date
Dec 30, 2020
Messages
146
Participants
Conti, Victim

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  1. Message 001 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Help?

  2. Message 002 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Hello

  3. Message 003 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Are you ready to negotiate?

  4. Message 004 Conti Actor / other

    Support: As you already know - your network and all of your data were encrypted by CONTI team. Besides the encryption process we've downloaded a large pack of your internal documents and files that will be published in case our negotiations fail. How it happens can be seen on our website https://continews.best/ (TOR mirror: http://fylszpcqfel7joif.onion). The recovery price is $8500000 (302.5 BTC). This initial offer is based on the details about your revenue and internal financial documents we currently have access to. If you want to make sure we can recover all of your data - you can send us the two files of your choice and we will decrypt them free of charge. If we reach mutual agreement your will be provided with decryption tool, none of your internal data will be published, all the backdoors will be removed from your network and you will be provided with security tips on how to avoid further breaches. We strongly recommend to review our offer in a timely manner to avoid additional expenses from your side on security software and on building the new network from scratch.

  5. Message 005 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: That's a crazy price. How do we even know if this will work?

  6. Message 006 Conti Actor / other

    Support: You can send 2 files for decrypt. Its free.

  7. Message 007 Conti Actor / other

    Support: In addition, we have stolen more than 1 terabyte of information from your network.

  8. Message 008 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We have a lot of questions. Maybe you've got the wrong price because we have no idea what internal financial documents show that we can pay $8,500,000.

  9. Message 009 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  Hours and Revenue analysis November 2020 YTD (2).xlsx [ 52kB ]

  10. Message 010 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: I'm not in finance but those look like revenue numbers, not profits. Can you share the files you've taken so that our team can verify?

  11. Message 011 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes. Please wait.

  12. Message 012 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks. I should have 2 files for you shortly.

  13. Message 013 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  list_firstpart.zip [ 5MB ]

  14. Message 014 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: What's this?

  15. Message 015 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Listing of the first part of the stolen information

  16. Message 016 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Will we get more parts later?

  17. Message 017 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes, we are unpacking a terabyte. It will take a lot of time. You can select any file from the listing and we will discard it as proof that we have these files.

  18. Message 018 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok please let us know once it has been unpacked. It will be important to get the full listing

  19. Message 019 Victim Victim

    [redacted]:  [redacted]-EMEA.xml.[redacted] [ 3kB ]

  20. Message 020 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Can you decrypt this?

  21. Message 021 Conti Actor / other

    Support: I have sent your file to the technical department. Wait.

  22. Message 022 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  [redacted]-EMEA.xml [ 2kB ]

  23. Message 023 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We're going to review all these files.Any update on the 1 TB?

  24. Message 024 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Will upload the file listing as soon as it's ready.

  25. Message 025 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok we'll be here. Thanks

  26. Message 026 Conti Actor / other

    Support: 25 % ready. This is a very slow process. Wait.

  27. Message 027 Conti Actor / other

    Support: It will take a few days

  28. Message 028 Conti Actor / other

    Support: You can choose ANY file from the listing above and we will discard it as proof

  29. Message 029 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We'll work on that. Offices are closed the next few days but we'll be in touch. Ok?

  30. Message 030 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: This is our priority

  31. Message 031 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Ok, just keep us updated on your progress.

  32. Message 032 Conti Actor / other

    Support: 50% Ready

  33. Message 033 Conti Actor / other

    Support: 70% Ready

  34. Message 034 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks. We're still here

  35. Message 035 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: While you're pulling the file tree, can you send us this file? 05/07/2020 02:55 PM 106,393 [redacted] - Draft 2020 05 06 v2.docx

  36. Message 036 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes, will upload soon

  37. Message 037 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  [redacted]---draft-2020-05-06-v2.docx [ 104kB ]

  38. Message 038 Conti Actor / other

    Support: %90 ready

  39. Message 039 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks, still here and checking in.

  40. Message 040 Conti Actor / other

    Support: 100% ready. Wait listing

  41. Message 041 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  listing_1tb.zip [ 9.2MB ]

  42. Message 042 Conti Actor / other

    Support: You can choose ANY file from the listing above and we will discard it as proof

  43. Message 043 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks. So this is a directory of every single file you've taken from our network?

  44. Message 044 Conti Actor / other

    Support: yes

  45. Message 045 Conti Actor / other

    Support: total of data more 1tb

  46. Message 046 Conti Actor / other

    Support: so, what other questions do you have?

  47. Message 047 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks. We are looking now

  48. Message 048 Conti Actor / other

    Support: so?

  49. Message 049 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: This is a lot of data to review. How did you get these files off our network?

  50. Message 050 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Packing data into an archive provides compression up to 95%

  51. Message 051 Conti Actor / other

    Support: After the deal is concluded, we will give recommendations on how to prevent this.

  52. Message 052 Conti Actor / other

    Support: I propose to return to the discussion of the agreement

  53. Message 053 Conti Actor / other

    Support: After the conclusion of the agreement, we overwrite the data

  54. Message 054 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Yes, we want to discuss the agreement. $8,500,000 is a lot of money. We're just trying to see all the details because that is still an unexpected amount.

  55. Message 055 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Even if we had that much money, how do we know you won't just take the money and resell the data?

  56. Message 056 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We will show the cleaning logs

  57. Message 057 Conti Actor / other

    Support: This price is indicated for restoring ALL data in your network and deleting data on our servers

  58. Message 058 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We will give a decryptor and you will restore all the work

  59. Message 059 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We value our reputation and never leak any data after the deal is closed

  60. Message 060 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Alright, so we are thinking this through now. I will get back to you soon, alright?

  61. Message 061 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Ok, waiting.

  62. Message 062 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We're trying to get answers on our end. Thanks for waiting

  63. Message 063 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Ok waiting

  64. Message 064 Conti Actor / other

    Support: If you have any questions - we can help you But the sooner you conclude an agreement, the sooner you will resume work and will no longer suffer losses due to this situation.

  65. Message 065 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Can you send this file? 08/03/2020 05:14 PM 13,697 [redacted]_v4 CL.docx

  66. Message 066 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes Wait

  67. Message 067 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  [redacted]_v4-cl.docx [ 13kB ]

  68. Message 068 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thanks for the quick response

  69. Message 069 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Are you convinced? There is really a lot of your data here

  70. Message 070 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We certainly see that you have our data. Nothing to hide there

  71. Message 071 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: It's the price that's causing us heartburn...

  72. Message 072 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Publishing data will cause customer churn and you will lose much more. It is more profitable to work with us

  73. Message 073 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Yes, but how do we pay if we don't have the cash?

  74. Message 074 Conti Actor / other

    Support: There are plenty of ways to get the cash, like insurance or a corporate loan.

  75. Message 075 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: If those were option we would have pulled those levers already!

  76. Message 076 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We are ready to hear your proposal which is based on your abilities, but it should be relevant to the initial offer.

  77. Message 077 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We are treating this as a data leak, no matter what. However, there is some upside to getting the files deleted (even though there are no assurances). Millions of dollars is excessive for this type of data and we don't have much need for a decryptor. Our proposal is $250,000.

  78. Message 078 Conti Actor / other

    Support: That is way lower than your abilities and not as relevant to our expectations as we thought. Although I will pas your offer to my boss and get back to you.

  79. Message 079 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Sounds good. Thanks.

  80. Message 080 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We've discussed internally, and taking in consideration the facts that you are trying to work this through and the fact that you don't need the decryption tool I've managed to convince my boss to provide you the huge discount by going down to $2125000 (70% discount). If we close the deal this way we have to intention to sell or publish your data of course.

  81. Message 081 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We are still far apart but we view this is a positive step. Thank you.

  82. Message 082 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Can we discuss with our team?

  83. Message 083 Conti Actor / other

    Support: yes

  84. Message 084 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: This reduction is interesting. It's almost end of week here and some of our management wants to discuss. Can we reach out next week?

  85. Message 085 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes, sure, let's get back to this on Monday. Just keep us updated on the progress.

  86. Message 086 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok

  87. Message 087 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We're connecting on this topic later today and tomorrow morning. We may be able to increase the dollar amount.

  88. Message 088 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Ok, will be waiting for further details

  89. Message 089 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We have reviewed the data and while the files contain company information, they will not cause millions in damage. Even if they did, we'd have to live with that because we are on a tight budget in 2021. However, we think there is some value with your cooperation and we're prepared to pay $400,000 immediately. We can work out the details if you want to make a profit. Otherwise, we may be out of opportunities.

  90. Message 090 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We will discuss internally and get back to you soon.

  91. Message 091 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: great, ok thank you.

  92. Message 092 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We've discussed, despite the fact that my boss considers our last offer reasonable I managed to convince him to review it. He agreed to go down to $600k if the deal will be closed by the end of this week. Once the transfer is made you will be provided with security recommendations on network improvement, breach details, all you files will be completely wiped from our servers once and for all. Also we can upload your files to mega.nz secure share and provide you with full access to it. That's a fair offer and I did everything possible to make it work. Hope you appreciate.

  93. Message 093 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We do appreciate that but we'll need to discuss since it's more money than what we have at the moment. Before we discuss, can you also confirm that we would receive a decryption tool in addition to the above deliverables?

  94. Message 094 Conti Actor / other

    Support: As I remember you do not need a decryption tool. Am I mistaken? Most of the discount was provided based on the fact that you do not need the decryption.

  95. Message 095 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: There are some files that would save us time. $400,000 is not a small amount.

  96. Message 096 Conti Actor / other

    Support: That is way below our offer. Yes, surely the decryptor would save you some time, and time means money. The $600k offer was for the data we hold. As you must understand we have some experience in negotiations, and you are trying to put us in the position that you think we accept, based on the basic information that is in the the press about usual sum we get. Relying on the press or public opinion is a mistake. About 75% of our deals are never leaked to the public or revealed. We will be waiting for your decision by tomorrow. $600k for the files or something better for full pack.

  97. Message 097 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Yes, we know you are very experienced. We can sense it. All we're doing is seeing how much money we can spend, and $400,000 is an large sum. If we go down this path, then we certainly want all of the items that are available.

  98. Message 098 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We've read about you in the press but we have no idea about the usual sum that you get. No one here wants to play games, and that's why we're trying to finalize the deliverables in advance. We want a solution and we assume you want to get paid. But $400,000 is only available if we can get everything. How else can we afford to pay that much?

  99. Message 099 Conti Actor / other

    Support: The $400k is too low anyways. I will talk to my boss and try to get an offer for $600k that will contain the decryptor. Give me few hours.

  100. Message 100 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Alright - your best offer that includes the decryptor will be taken under very serious consideration. Thank you.

  101. Message 101 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Talked to my boss. When he heard about the decryption tool being needed, at first he was ready to move back to the previous offer or at least move to 1.2mil (x2 from the data offer), but we've decided not too be hard on you and are ready to stay at $750k. Take this to the management and let me know what they decide.

  102. Message 102 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: I appreciate you trying. We have a lot of money set aside for this but $750,000 just won't be possible. If the price was $600,000 then we may have been able to push closer to that. But at $750,000, it is just so far...

  103. Message 103 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We can leave it $600k if the transfer will be done today or tomorrow. The BTC wallet is: [redacted]

  104. Message 104 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Let me discuss with the team. This is still above our budget but we can try to work towards it quickly. Thanks.

  105. Message 105 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We took this management and discussed. They were certainly appreciative of you being able to include the decryptor in the $600,000 price. While the price itself is still high for us, we feel more confident in being able to move past this with you. We may be paying more than the value, but want to keep the positivity in our discussions. As a result, we can increase our offer to $450,000 and can begin the transfer soon if you are with us. Thank you.

  106. Message 106 Conti Actor / other

    Support: $600k. take it back.

  107. Message 107 Conti Actor / other

    Support: And the sum will be increased if we will not receive the funds within mentioned time frames.

  108. Message 108 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Well, increasing the sum is not going to get us any closer. I will get back to you in a bit.

  109. Message 109 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We had an early morning call. $450,000 is our limit and this is more than what we anticipated paying. We can start the payment process soon if you can agree. Otherwise, this may not be the ending we had hoped for.

  110. Message 110 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We know you worked hard to make this work and we appreciate it. It's just that we're at our limit.

  111. Message 111 Conti Actor / other

    Support: You still have a little time to conclude an agreement on the terms above. Then the price will increase.

  112. Message 112 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We have worked day and night to make this work and we understand you're doing the same. If the price goes up then there is no way we can pay. All we ask is for a little help so that we can get the cash in your hands. $450,000 is not a small amount for us.

  113. Message 113 Conti Actor / other

    Support: I'm sorry. I'll talk to the boss today, but I'm afraid he'll stand his ground.

  114. Message 114 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thank you. That would be helpful

  115. Message 115 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Did you talk to your boss today?

  116. Message 116 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Not yet, will update you as soon as he replies.

  117. Message 117 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Ok. $450k. BTC wallet: [redacted]

  118. Message 118 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thank you. Can you confirm what we will receive in return of a $450,000 payment?

  119. Message 119 Conti Actor / other

    Support: - Decryption tool. - Your data will be wiped from our servers - Security improvement tips

  120. Message 120 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: And the files will be uploaded to mega.nz for us to review?

  121. Message 121 Conti Actor / other

    Support: we can upload on mega. yes.

  122. Message 122 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok, we'll be in touch. It may be hard since this is a holiday weekend but we'll send an update

  123. Message 123 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We're hoping to pay by tomorrow, since today is a holiday. Ok?

  124. Message 124 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes. Let me know as soon as the transfer is made.

  125. Message 125 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Still here? Can you confirm the wallet for $450,000?

  126. Message 126 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Yes, just a minute.

  127. Message 127 Conti Actor / other

    Support: The BTC wallet is the same: [redacted]

  128. Message 128 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We have paid. Please confirm

  129. Message 129 Conti Actor / other

    Support: The payment is pending. As soon as it's confirmed you will be provided with decryption software with the instructions on how to use it.

  130. Message 130 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok. And when will get access to the files that you took?

  131. Message 131 Conti Actor / other

    Support: We will upload them to the mega.nz share the soonest possible.

  132. Message 132 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Do you have our tool yet?

  133. Message 133 Conti Actor / other

    Support: Will be ready within next 4-5 hours.

  134. Message 134 Conti Actor / other

    Support:  [redacted]_decryptor.exe [ 102kB ]

  135. Message 135 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: We're taking a look now. Any update on mega.nz?

  136. Message 136 Conti Actor / other

    Support: It's pretty much data so it keeps being uploaded. Will update you as soon as it's ready.

  137. Message 137 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thank you. Please keep us updated

  138. Message 138 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Will it be available today?

  139. Message 139 Conti Actor / other

    Support: please wait. about 1 tb

  140. Message 140 Conti Actor / other

    Support: %50 ready wait

  141. Message 141 Conti Actor / other

    Support: %90 ready

  142. Message 142 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Ok. Please keep us updated

  143. Message 143 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Is there any update on when mega.nz will be ready?

  144. Message 144 Conti Actor / other

    Support: i check now wait

  145. Message 145 Conti Actor / other

    Support: https://mega.nz/folder/[redacted] check please download all and open first archive unzip and see write please and we will delete from mega

  146. Message 146 Victim Victim

    [redacted]: Thank you. I will let you know.